Take all the provinces you need for the Caliphate to finally realize the unification of Islam. I might be able to get France on my side too. Just take the province when you fight a war with the state that happens to own it, like Sindh or Gujarat. I can understand the complaints about micro-managing, and it's especially true if you're colonial, but that's a consequence of choice in some sense. 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The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. AE won't matter (No one will really care if you gut the ottos except maybe hejaz?). This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. This selection contains highly anticipated releases, sequels, ports and some f We're in the home stretch! Without forts, their lands will capitulate very fast and leave them indefensible, whether vs the likes of Ramazan/Mameluks or even yourself in the next war. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Premiered Nov 19, 2020 1.3K Dislike Share Save Zlewikk TV 98K subscribers EU4 has already 16 expansions in their library. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Don't just make it all Light Ships. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. Personally, to me all of this necessary micro is the worse aspect of the game and what drives me away from it the most. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. More governing capacity means more states, and more states means more money. If Albania is still around you can try the Skanderbeg strategy and whittle away their forces.Its much easier to do early game. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! Set them as a nation of interest and pay close attention to their wars. You must log in or register to reply here. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. From there, you can also go back to the southern tip of Arabia and take out the states in Yemen there before youve dealt with the Mamluks in Arabia. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifierCustodian of the Holy Cities. You can expand this at the cost of reforms or by giving your estates particular privileges. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. You can do so by going to the diplomatic interaction screen, selecting diplomatic feedback and toggling join offensive wars off. Im playing an Ottomans game right now (going for the Dar al-Islam achievement) and its very easy to get an absolutely insane army force limit by doing just two things: reaching the end of their national ideas, which gives +50% army force limit, and also by reaching the end of the Quantity Idea Group, which I believe also doubles your force limit. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. If they also lag in mil tech you've got 'em on the ropes. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. You are using an out of date browser. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. High debt and high war exhaustion means rebels which means even more trouble for them. There we have it the end of our EU4 guide, as we made the Ottomans easy! . Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. If they engage you in a bad position, forfeit the battle to prevent a stack wipe. If you call Tunis into wars but dont give them any of the lands they may want, theyll always have a truce with Fezzan, but never get to annex it. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. Destroy navy and beat up whatever army they dredge up. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. The mera can also gain land rights, but they have more important modifiers right now, such as the integration of nobility and stronger duchies. Only having 49k is little. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. This is not specific to this run. How to beat Ottomans as Poland It is 1505, I annexed Danzig, Mazovia, Lithuania as a junior partner, and Austrians as my allies. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. At the time the achievement fired it was all of France and Netherlands essentially. Basically, you get some strong allies for yourself. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. I took Tripoli, Jerba, Susa, and Tunis and gave everything south of that to Fezzan. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. I always do a little DLC recommendation to make the run more fun previously I recommended Cradle of Civilization and Rights of Man. You also take 60%+ of their trade income with this deal. how do you deal with ottomans when they take quantity ideas? its either that or biga), sinope, amasya. Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. The Ottomans are hard to take down the longer you leave them undisturbed. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. If youre allied to Naples, call them in only now. Give the UlemaUlema Land Rights, the Merchant GuildsMerchand Guild Land Rights, and the DhimmiDhimmi Land Rights. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. What can you guys suggest? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Best advice for beating ottomans is simply stop being intimidated by their numbers and fight them. Don't get confused by map size. If their manpower gets low and/or they're in multiple wars, the time might be right to pile on. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. They are inferior later on. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. I decided to take Crete as well, but not yet more of Dalmatia. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. . It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. All rights reserved. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. My troops always seem to suck and lose equal manpower battles, maybe I need to read up more on how it all works :'), Yeah no dlc yet but I'll keep that in mind for next game, thanks :). You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. After all, it was my first time playing this game. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. If you wanted to hit them tech 15 infantry backed by cannons would be good, tech 16 would be better, but they get a resurgence in the value of their cav at 18-19. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. The decision makes your country more stable and lets you easily convert all your lands to Sunni if you didnt take humanist ideas before or are really into that. We also established footholds in Persia, Egypt, Libya, and the Caucasus, which we can use to expand further. They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. Currently Spain. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. I always take Quality + Innovative for that insane +20% Infantry Combat Ability policy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. Press J to jump to the feed. . You can also expand into the Horn of Africa at this point in time. Just take as much provinces as you can. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. In that war, I took Constantinople and Edirne to stop them from crossing the strait without going around. Early to Mid-game, wait for them to go to ear with Mamluks - this typically exhausts their manpower and gives some time to move in and siege up territory before they can move their armies back from Egypt. The longer you drag the war out the better. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. I recommend annexing any vassal that has no more foreign cores you can take. Also I'm a scrub. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. 1.18 Kilwa -> Italy 85% reduced coring cost One-tag WC, 1.19 Aztec True One-tag WC AAR (complete), 1.20 Theravada SpanishBritalianFrancoPrussian Holy Roman Emperor of China One-tag, Sail On, Ceylon - A Non-European Colonial AAR for EU4. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. . Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. Alternatively, you may be able to ally with Russia. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. These vassals make up your siege troops. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. This will deplete their manpower to zero, cause them to take out loans they can't repay and raise their WE to 20 very quickly. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? Quite manageable. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. What (military) ideas do you have? The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. Conquer the World as the Ottomans etc. The country is mountainous and can be tricky to conquer or divert resources to, especially if you need them against Spain. If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. If Medina still exists, you can likely vassalize them to speed up your conquest. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. 33% for ottoman ideas and 50% for quantity. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. Make sure to at least take Pest for the. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. You can do this again and again, until they reach stab -3 (they will stab up though, if they can, but just keep going). However, history wont stop us! I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. The way EU IV is designed, if you want to play optimally then you should use the minimum sized stacks needed to siege provinces, split your navy in order to cycle them against strong naval opponents and generally minimise the losses due to attrition. Play smart, have forts in mountains/hills/swamps. They still haven't taken out mamluks. Spain might lend a large army in Morocco, so be wary when and where you attack. Remember to enact the fortification edict on all provinces containing a fort, especially in your capital. Build strong Alliances around the Ottomans so you can call them in when they are weak. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. Beats conquering, right? 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. 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